Podcaster Joe Rogan had a pointed warning for Democrats if they want to escape their woke reputation. According to Rogan, they need to provide concrete specifics on where their policies went wrong and why they were wrong to support them.
During the podcast, Rogan spoke with popular English podcaster and YouTuber Chris Williamson.
Williamson: Have you been tracking AOC’s pivot recently?
Rogan: Well, she’s, uh, froze her eggs. I know about that. I think she got rid of the man…
Williamson: Called off the engagement, froze her eggs, has started posting ‘I’m on my way to do yoga,’ like…videos walking down the street.
Rogan: Good for her…looking hot. Maybe she’d be nicer that way.
Williamson: Well, she also said Woke 1.0 was crazy. Do you track this thing?
Rogan: I did. Which makes me think that you’re willing to change your opinions based on public reaction. I don’t like that.
Cause if you really thought Defund the Police, and then you just ascribed it to Woke 1.0 was crazy. Well, how did it get you?
‘Cause it didn’t get me. How did it get you?
How did defund the police get you? Tell, give me your thoughts. How far out did you track the consequences of defunding the police? ‘Cause I immediately went to, you’re gonna have more crime ’cause no one’s gonna be able to stop the crime. We’re gonna be fu**ed. It’s gonna get scary.
And then you’re gonna want more police and saying defund the police is just gonna make more police and more control and more totalitarian government. Like, what did you think defund the police meant?
Everyone’s gonna like eat mushrooms and we’re all gonna like be flower children. What did you think? Because there’s no police around, no one’s gonna do crimes. Everyone’s gonna be great. Like, what was the thought process? ‘Cause if you’re just saying that because everybody’s like, “That’s fu**ing crazy,” and enough people said that’s crazy, you’re like, “I think they think it’s crazy.”
Williamson: The wind’s blowing in a different direction, time for me to move.
Rogan: Or, have you changed your opinion? And if you did change your opinion, what were you thinking back then?
Williamson: Yeah, I mean, these are the questions I think that we always want to ask. You always wanna ask that. That being said, to steel man what she was saying, or to try and put it in the best light, what she was saying, I think, the rhetoric got, what did she say? The rhetoric got like out of hand or something.
Woke 1.0 was crazy. And she said that there was basically an opportunity to expand the Overton window, talking about a time where people were, to be honest, it sounds like a bit more pliable. Like, oh, because people are at home, people seem a little bit more, like, you know that line, never let a good crisis go to waste?
It feels a little bit like that, maybe opportunistic. We can expand the Overton window. And then we realized, oh, like we overshot on here a little bit. That was a little bit crazy, but, there are conversations being had now that wouldn’t have been able to be had had we have not expanded it during that time. I go, the ends justifying the means with stuff like that doesn’t wash to me. And then reversing your position or changing your position or sanitizing it, which is probably closer, right? We said that thing, but we didn’t really mean that. You know, we just got a little—
Rogan: There’s a way out of it for them, but they have to be honest. There’s a— if you want us to take you seriously, you have to say how you fu**ed up.
You have to say how you fu**ed up, and you have to say what you really think about how you fu**ed up. You have to be honest, and you have to be authentic. We have to know that you are embarrassed by your choices, and that you kind of went with the hive, admittedly.
You have to say that. If you don’t say that, then you’re full of sh**. And if you’re full of sh** now, you’re gonna get more and more full of sh** over time. And that’s how politicians get soured. That’s how they get compromised.
A lot of them come in at— A lot of them come into office very opportunistic, or very idealistic, rather. They have these wonderful ideas about like, this is the great experiment in self-government, and I’m a part of it now, and I’m really gonna help my constituents, and I’m gonna do great, and I’m gonna really, they’re gonna love me ’cause I’m gonna really make their lives better.
And then once you get in there and you realize how dirty this all is, you realize, you know, you see Nancy Pelosi’s worth $400 million, like what? And then they tell you how to vote, and if you don’t vote that way, they fu**ing ostracize you, but you wanna keep your career.
So you start making little compromises here and little compromises there, and you start bullshi**ing and you start lying. And once you start lying, you can’t see the truth anymore.
As soon as you start lying, you don’t see the truth. It’s not in front of you anymore because you’re, what, concerned about that lie. So those lies are in your head, and who you’re trying to project yourself as, that’s what’s in your head, and you don’t get to see.
Like, why is this system so fu**ed? What can we do to unweave it while we still allow corporations to profit? Like, how can we put a cap on that to make sure that they don’t get incentivized to break the law in order to supply more capital to their shareholders?
Like, what can we do to balance this out in an even way? Like, that’s what we should all be thinking, not how can I make the most fu**ing money while I’m in Congress. And that’s what a lot of them are thinking because everybody else is thinking that. And you look at the fu**ing thing, and it’s red, blue, red, blue. They’re all insider trading and they’re all rich as sh** and they all make $170,000 a year.
Like Ilhan Omar, where she like, she was estimated to be, her accountant said she was worth $30 million, and then be like, what? How the fu** are you worth $30 million? And like, ‘oh, it was a mistake. I’m actually, I’m not even worth $100,000.’ Like literally, it went from one to the other. And she attributed it to an accounting error.
Williamson: Like— That’s a big accounting error.
Rogan: How mad would you be at your accountant if he told you, ‘Bro, you’re killing it right now. You’re worth about $30 million.’
They’re all dirt. Her and her husband had a winery and it immediately got shut down. It wasn’t making any money. There’s a lot of these like fugazi companies that these people get involved with and they start making money.
You know Joe DeRosa, the comic? Joe DeRosa used to work for the Senate in Texas.
He’s a media guy. And he was like, you realize when you’re around these people what’s actually happening. He’s like, they’re all getting donations from this and donations from that and gifts from that and get— and it’s always managing these relationships with all these money people.
And that’s what’s going on with all these fu**ers. They’re not in there trying to like make sure that their county’s doing great and have access to clean water and fu**ing good schools.
No, they’re all just pretending that they’re doing that. And what they’re doing is they’re making money. And maybe they’re kind of sort of servicing the community a little bit. But the real thing, if you want to be a fu**ing top-flight congressperson, you know, you gotta make some money.
Williamson: Well, think about what would have happened if Kamala had won. Would AOC have been talking about woke 1.0 was crazy, or would that have been a continuation of, well, look, we put the policies out, people like the policies? How much of this is a reversal of the position because it wasn’t effective?
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